Fistgate Teachers Knew They Were Violating Trust

The teachers at Fistgate knew that the public would not approve what they were teaching to the children about graphic homosexual sex, one of those teachers revealed last month.

“[W]e flew sort of below the radar screen for a long time,” Margot Abels told Boston’s homosexual newspaper, Bay Windows.

She taught sex to the children because she thought she knew better than the parents what should be taught to them. She says she had the support of state officials during her seven years at the state Department of Education.

“We always knew that we were working in an area that in certain places was considered really controversial and we also knew that we were doing cutting edge work and that there are plenty of people that don’t support doing work with gay kids. But I think that we flew sort of below the radar screen for a long time and were able to, and had the complete support of our agency. Maybe David Driscoll [Commissioner of Education] didn’t always know everything that we did, but certainly our supervisors did,” said Abels.

She added that she and Julie Netherland, another teacher at Fistgate, always had the “absolute support” of their immediate supervisors.

This raises the question whether Governors Weld and Cellucci knew or should have known and what Jane Swift knows now. Brian Camenker believes they knew a lot because, as an activist, he told them many times what was going on. It was only because they wouldn’t listen that he had Scott Whiteman make a tape at the annual conference in March 2000 so that no one could deny it any longer.

Abels says that the Mass. schools were a “nationally recognized model” for teaching teenagers about homosexual sex until the scandal surfaced.

She claims the homosexual AIDS program has been largely dismantled as a result of the fallout from Fistgate.

Tape Recordings Should be Released

Abels complained that the tape recording that has been distributed by the Parents Rights Coalition and MassNews is a distortion because it is only a small part of the 70-minute workshop. She claims that she was teaching the teenagers about disease-control during the part that has not been distributed.

However, the only reason the other portions have not been released is because she and Julie Netherland have successfully persuaded a judge to put a gag order on the tape.

If the judge were to remove the gag order, Camenker and Whiteman would instantly release the entire 70-minutes of what occurred at Fistgate, they tell MassNews. But they can’t do so while the court has an Order against them.

Abels continued to claim that the workshop was an educational class. “The workshop was an incredibly successful experience for young people,” she told the homosexual newspaper. “We were mobbed after this workshop with kids who had questions for us, and wanting [us] to link them up to resources and connect with each other to get information. The passion the kids had there around answering some of the questions, [saying] ‘I would never take that risk,’ ‘I would never do that,’ ‘My life is too important,’ things like that, never made it on the tape.”

Whiteman, who was in attendance for the workshop, has disputed that any of it was about disease. He says he will be very happy when Abels and Netherland allow the public to hear the transcript of the entire session.

Abels still believes that the teaching of explicit sexual techniques to teenagers was a positive influence on the children.

“I never thought, ‘Ooh, did we do something wrong here?’” She continued, “[I]t never occurred to me that an experience like this shouldn’t happen for young people.”

She apparently does not realize that some people compare her to the members of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) who believe that they are helping young boys when they have sex with them. They honestly think that they are assisting these youths to mature.

Many wonder why this 40ish woman would get so much satisfaction out of talking “dirty” with youngsters. It would indicate a perverted mind, they believe. (To read some of what Abels said to these young people at Fistgate, search the archives of MassNews for “western suburbs.”)

Abels believes that the act of sex is an integral part of being homosexual. She told a group of teachers at Fistgate: “We always feel like we are fighting against people who deny publicly, who say privately, that being queer is not at all about sex… We believe otherwise. We think that sex is central to every single one of us and particularly queer youth.” She and the other instructors at Fistgate evaluated for the teachers a few of the “campaigns” that have been used to demonstrate to queer youth how to “be safe” while still enjoying homosexual sex.

She told the group of teachers that the campaign that she used, “Respect yourself, protect yourself,” was thought to be good in getting the message to kids to use protection. But she and others were concerned that it made the children who didn’t protect themselves feel bad. So it ultimately was a poor message, they thought. Another teacher, Michael Goucher, pointed out that many children have older partners (commonly known as pedophiles to most people). These youngsters do not feel they can discuss using protection with these men who are older than they. If Goucher taught this message, he believes it would cause them to lose respect for themselves.

The campaign for abstinence, “No sex, no problem,” was ridiculed, because it assumed that children could opt not to have sex. Additionally, it made those children who had already had sex feel bad, or think they had a problem since they had had sex.

After reviewing a few of the campaigns they had tried, Abels described for the teachers the project she had worked on, the “Gay/Straight Alliance HIV Education Project.” She traveled to five different schools each year conducting up to eight “HIV prevention sessions” in that school’s gay club. She and the other teachers who had just told a group of children how to properly position their hands for “fisting” were telling this room full of educators that they would visit their schools and teach the same thing to their students.

The suit that Abels filed is forcing the parents to defend themselves in an additional court. The first suit against them was filed in a Boston court by Netherland. The new suit has been filed in Cambridge.

“This suit is obviously not an attempt to seek justice in the case,” said Atty. Chester Darling, who represents the two parents. “It is merely an attempt by the GLSEN crowd to harass Brian Camenker and Scott Whiteman and to have them running all over the state defending themselves.”

The civil rights lawyer continued, “It is also blatant forum-shopping because these people want to hold the trial in a town that has many liberals. They hopeit will be impossible for us to obtain a fair trial there. The main defendant in the case is the Commonwealth of Massachusetts whose offices are in Boston. My clients were included only to harass them even more and to give credibility to the filing of the suit in Cambridge.”

The suit seeks: 1) reinstatement of Abels to her job, 2) damages for lost wages, 3) compensatory damages including those for emotional distress, 4) punitive damages and 5) attorney fees.

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