Discussion of Mr.
Pawlick's Feature:
"An Intelligent
Discussion About Homosexuality"
An Un-Intelligent Discussion
of Homosexuality
Jess LaBrecque
"Intelligent Discussion"
is a Fundraising Tool
Richard W. Lewis, Sr.
"Massachusetts News"
Is Really Hatred and Ignorance
Marianne Orlando
Thanks for Standing
Up for the First Amendment
Thomas Oberst
Homosexual
Activists Engage in Propaganda and Intimidation Campaign
Brian Camenker
Defending the Indefensible
Robert Renaud
Homosexual activists have politicized the issues
Chris Cassidy
TL Responds to MassNews Readers
Halt the bias
Kent Schreiner
TL's
Final Letter
TL's First Letter
Mr. Pawlick's First Response
TL's Second Letter
Mr. Pawlick's Second Response
TL's Third Letter
Mr. Pawlick's Third Response
An Un-Intelligent
Discussion of Homosexuality
11 February 1999
I do not wish to take away your right to an opinion, however, we must
look
realistically at "Intelligent Discussion" and realize the very little
intelligent about it.
I wish for everyone to understand the truth, and not think of homosexuality
as, as Mr. Pawlick so erroneously described it as "a habit that is compulsive
and addictive." Is feeling safe, secure and loved a wrong habit to get
into? Is the right to feel comfortable enough to live in our community
some bad addiction? As readers, we must be able to comprehend what is homophobic
babble and what is truth. I do not find anything to accuse Mr. Pawlick
of besides having too much time on his hands. As a community we should
understand the need to not be for or against something but to stay with
what is real and what is unfortunate disillusionment. As actual open minded
INTELLIGENT readers we need to unite and keep literary filth such as this
from coming into our homes again.
Jess LaBrecque
Dover
"Intelligent
Discussion" is a Fundraising Tool
22 January 1999
Mr. Pawlick appears obsessed with homosexuality.
He really is not. He has learned from Fallwell, Helms, Robertson et
al. that this is simply a major fund raising tool.
You disregard credible data such as FBI statistics show that 98% of
child molestations are committed by heterosexuals.
In its place you quote discredited psychologists like Paul Cameron (didn't
the APA kick him out?). His connecting pedophilia to gays is not backed
by any empirical evidence but....
You throw it out there and pretty soon you create fear. Then you
say we can solve the problem we just need money to combat these bad Gay
Americans who are after your children........the bucks start rolling in....
Anita Bryant tried this revenue generator and it worked for a while.
Could you research her current life and let us know where she is, what
she is doing and maybe who she works for?
C'mon this country--heck this State--has children going to bed hungry
every night. Why not committ your resources to a real problem?
Richard W. Lewis, Sr.
Boston
"Massachusetts
News" Is Really Hatred and Ignorance
19 January 1999
When I see hatred and ignorance distributed as "Massachusetts News,"
it
gives me pause. My church choir director is a fine musician and an
excellent role
model of what it takes to be a professional. Also, he possesses
the warmth, sense of humor, and high standards that make him what I consider
a "good person." And he's gay. Yet, I respect him. That's because
I don't see someone who's simply gay,
but who's a great person. Funny thing how it works that way.
I, and most people, tend to judge people by their character and whether
or not I can find a common bond with them.
Your treatise is clinical in nature, and reminds me of propoganda. Propoganda
usually serves a lower purpose and is often used to foster hate or fear.
When you spread lies, it serves no good purpose.
Can't help it. That's how I feel,
Marianne Orlando
Framingham
Mr. Pawlick Replies:
I am sure that your choir director is a good person, but would you recommend
that any young man smoke cigarettes or practice homosexuality? They
are bad choices. We do not have the right to teach our young people
to practice a bad choice.
Would you please advise me where there is a "lie" in the article that
I wrote. If you can show anything even close to a
lie, I will gladly correct it.
Thanks
for Standing Up for the First Amendement
18 January 1999
I want to congratulate The Massachusetts News for this thought
provoking
work. I have now "book marked" your URL on my computers at home
and plan
to read it daily.
Thank you for standing up for the First Amendment and against violent
gay extremists and the hate mongering religious bigots of the New Bedford
Standard Times. Thank you also for giving us both sides of a story
and for reporting the news rather than mindless radical propaganda.
Thomas P. Oberst
Sherborn
Editor's Note:
The anonymity of "TL" was a decision by The Massachusetts News.
"TL" provided a name, but requested geogrpahical anonymity. We decided
to use the author's initials rather than full name without a town.
Homosexual
Activists Engage in Propaganda and Intimidation Campaign
13 January 1999
I have been reading with some interest the diatribe of attacks by your
anonymous letter writer, "TL", on Edward Pawlick's excellent article
on
homosexuality.
Over the years the homosexual activist community has invented a whole
series of lies and half-truths to use in their propaganda campaign
to
force everyone else to accept this dangerous and (can I say it?)
perverted behavior as a normal way of life. In addition, they
use the
most cruel and outrageous methods of intimidation against anyone who
dares to disagree with them.
"TL's ranting and name-calling against Mr. Pawlick is just the merest
example of what anyone can expect. I've known people who have
received
threatening phone calls and threats for simply being interviewed on
the
subject in the newspaper. It's interesting, though, that "TL"
does not
choose to identify himself, although he's happy to make nasty public
personal comments about others.
Over the years, I have known many, many homosexuals, both as close
friends and family members, as well as business associates. I
can tell
you that this is anything but normal. These are people who are
in deep
inner pain and turmoil. Homosexual behavior (as well as its connected
behaviors of sado-machochism, pedophilia, etc.) is a symptom of much
deeper things. For example, just about every homosexual I have
known
was raped or molested as a child. Their often serene veneer usually
masks a very disjointed and obsessive personality. I am not a
doctor;
this is just observation.
As Mr. Pawlick's article points out, the most worrisome part of this
movement is the focus on going into schools and "sensitizing" teenage
children that having a sexual relationship with a homosexual is an
experience that might somehow enrich them. This message is given
along
with the other messages that homosexuality is a normal, non-addictive
behavior, is not the least bit medically dangerous, and that any
information to the contrary is to be considered "hateful".
I have seen this going on in my local schools, and it is very
disturbing. And I have talked to the people doing it, and believe
me,
they are very focused on what they are doing.
Finally, I could go point by point in refuting all of "TL's nonsense
and
circular reasoning. But I just see him as an angry person caught
up in
a soul-wrenching behavior and a bizarre movement. But it is necessary
that all of us -- in a free society -- to stand up for the truth
whenever we can.
Brian Camenker
Defending the Indefensible
13 January 1999
I commend Mr. Pawlick for his restraint in dealing with one TL.
But, I'm not publishing this excellent, much-needed Net-paper, so I find
no incentive to be so accommodating and tolerant of this person's psychobabble.
Whoever this TL is, the initials obviously stand for "Typical Liberal".
His rants are classic "liberalism is good and conservatism is evil" hyperbole,
and they prove just one thing: There are none so pathetic as those
trying to defend the indefensible.
You sir, cannot quote a few "experts" to tell me how homosexuals behave.
Are you a homosexual? Do you have many homosexual friends and
acquaintances? How much time have you spent in the "homosexual community?"
Have you visited the "bath-houses and homosexual bars" that you referenced?
("Bath-houses?")
This is a typical liberal "argument": because we do not participate
in the "gay" lifestyle, we are not qualified to discuss it. In response
to such nonsense, I cite my "Equus Principle": when I am walking by a pasture
and I see something in the grass, I need not wallow in it to know what
it is.
TL has carefully avoided discussing the most blatant exposition of
the perversity of homosexuality. I refer to the Usenet's "gay" newsgroups,
those open sewers running along the Information Superhighway. And, before
he but-but-buts, there is a considerable body of "straight" filth there
as well. It's distressing to go to such NGs, but to know the enemy, one
must scout their camps.
Perhaps he can explain why, when "gay" men are less then 2% of the
population, "gay" pornography accounts for half of the smut on the Internet
and the newsgroups.
The issue is not the existence of "straight" pornography. It is what
the "gay" newsgroups portray with shameless, brazen disregard for morality
and decency. Here is a group trying to pawn themselves off as the guys
next door, and they display the reality of their sordid existence with
utter abandon. Almost without exception, these newsgroups are replete
with graphic photos of naked men, typically no older than 25 and often
in their teens, usually aroused, and more often than not engaged in that
clean, wholesome sexuality that he's trying to sell us as "natural". And,
TL, NGs dedicated to the posting of literally hundred of photos of naked
boys give the lie to the protestation about "gay" pedophilia.
THIS is the truth about homosexuality, not the sterile, white-washed
mythology fostered by TL and the other liars of the left.
Homosexuality is self-defining: sexual activity with those of one's
own sex. Any other definition is simply playing liberal word-games. But
then, when the occupant of the Oral... er... Oval Office demands the definition
of "is", what else can we expect? And, when a group identifies itself as
homosexual, then we are on solid ground indeed in concluding that sexual
gratification is the raison d'etre of that group.
One grows very tired of hearing about Matthew Shepard, the post-mortem
poster boy for "gay" activism. Yes, his death was tragic. ALL murder is
tragic. But I defy TL or his ilk to tell us that this murder would ever
have been heard of outside of his home town had he been heterosexual, and
killed in precisely the same way. His death has been cold-bloodedly exploited
by left-wing extremists pressing their radical political agenda, and it
demonstrates beyond question the ethical bankruptcy of the "gay" extremists.
In how many gay support groups have you participated? How many
tormented gay teens have you interviewed? How many gay funerals have
you attended? How loudly have you protested anti-gay violence?
Have you marched in many "Pride" parades?
Typical feel-good liberalism. All form, no substance. How many "tormented
gay teens" has TL told about the long-proven, utterly disastrous medical
consequences of male homosexual activity? Does he discuss with them that
anal sex is the primary method of transmission for the many STD's, including
AIDS, that afflict "gay" men in alarming disproportion to the
general populace? Does TL let them know that the life expectancy
of "gay" men is 30 years less than that of "straight" men, precisely because
of the adverse health effects of the unhygenic sexual practices that constitute
homosexual behavior?
Of course not! Truth is an inconvenience, indeed an impediment, to
the liberal lie. Assuage their consciences, deceive them about how normal
and natural being "gay" is, tell them "if it feels good, do it", and go
off to find another kid to lie to when AIDS kills their previous victim.
No, TL, I have NOT "marched in many 'Pride' parades". I see no justification
whatsoever for having "pride" in one's sexual preferences. This is a dying
society when the very IDEA of a "pride" parade is not scorned into oblivion.
And, having seen enough graphic footage of the disgusting behavior of the
marchers and their arrogant defiance of every standard of public decency,
I praise God that I have NOT "marched" in these sordid tributes to amorality
and degeneracy.
Naturally, TL and his bedfellows (inference intended) will wail about
my "hatred" of gays. But, all one needs to know is that in the liberal
lexicon, hatred is disagreeing with liberals, and bigotry is winning an
argument with them. They have no foundation in logic or reason for their
ideological views. Their rhetoric is entirely emotional, awash in touchy-feely,
cotton-candy happy-talk, an devoid of even an iota of truth.
When we warn gays about the irrefutable dangers of their way of life,
and tell them that it is NOT natural, we are guilty of hatred. When liberals
deliberately conceal the medical and psychological perils of the homosexual
lifestyle, and lie to them about the wonders of being homosexual, why,
that's called compassion and tolerance and sensitivity and caring.
Define "is", TL!
Robert P. Renaud
Washington, MA
Homosexual activists have politicized
the issues
8 January
In the response to your article on homosexuality, the letter writer
stated that the word "homosexual" only appeared in revisions to the Bible
about 50 years ago. I am not sure of the truth of that, but what
I am sure of is that in many places through the Bible, the Book of Romans
being but one prominent example, homosexuality is
condemned in the strictest of terms. The admonition is there
that the practicing homosexual will not see the Kingdom of God.
Also, the fact that it occurs throughout nature also does not mean
too much, either. I mean, all disease occurs throughout nature as
well. That doesn't mean that homosexuality is a good thing, any more
than mental illness is a good (or bad) thing. Practicing homosexuality
will not continue the species, so for that reason alone, it is not "normal".
AIDS is an issue because the radical homosexual community has politicized
it. AIDS began in the homosexual community and spread like wildfire
because of the behavior of those infected with it. It is true that
it can affect anybody, but that does not change the fact that a heterosexual
non drug user has extremely minimal risk of
contracting it. It is a behavioral disease, that is it is directly
linked to reckless sexual or drug using behavior. I don't see how
we can rail against smoking because of the risk of cancer but not teach
abstinence "because kids won't listen". They seem to be listening
to the smoking message, don't they? But see, that is the problem.
It's
OK to stigmatize smoking but we can't stigmatize AIDS or people with
AIDS (in particular homosexuals) because it has been politicized.
I know this: if you practice abstinence and don't do drugs, you have
0% chance of getting AIDS (being that blood transfusions account for a
minimal risk at this point). If we taught abstinence
from the beginning, AIDS would not nearly be as prevalent.
I have no problem with homosexuals per se, but I don't see why I should
be forced to accept their lifestyle any more than they should be forced
to accept mine.
Chris Cassidy
Tewksbury, MA
A response to recent
Letters from readers of the Mass News
18 January 1999
“Irrationally held truths may be more harmful than reasoned errors.”
--TH Huxley.
I must agree with Mr. Camenker (aside from a grammarian standpoint)
when
he says:
“But it is necessary that all of us -- in a free society -- to stand
up
for the truth whenever we can.”
I consider that to be one of my Guiding Principles.
It is important to remember that the ability to discern the Truth is
essential to one’s character. It is not something that can be
dictated
to us. Each and every one of us must be able to determine what
is the Truth.
I become uneasy whenever someone tells me that they’re speaking “The
Truth.” Why do they need to mention that? Just say your
piece and I
will determine what is True. Whenever ANYONE says, “This is the
Truth,”
I immediately consider them suspect.
It was poignant of Mr. Camenker to say, “…the homosexual activist
community has invented a whole series of lies and half-truths to use
in
their propaganda campaign…”
THAT is exactly what I was thinking about Mr. Pawlick’s “Intelligent
Discussion….” I now wonder if “lies,” “half-truths,” and “propaganda”
are part of ALL activist campaigns.
“Homosexual behavior (as well as its connected behaviors of
sado-machochism, pedophilia, etc.)…”
Come, come now, Mr. Camenker; you surely know that I will not let you
get away with THAT. I know that your letter represents your opinion;
but you simply MUST be able to back it up with facts. Your
parenthesized comment is completely wrong. Insupportable sensationalism
will NOT earn you credibility.
“As Mr. Pawlick's article points out, the most worrisome part of this….”
Oh, don’t be shy, sir. Mr. Pawlick’s article quotes YOU.
You might as
well say, “As ‘I’ have pointed out….” Ummm… What “movement?”
What
“focus?” What “sensitizing?” WHAT is being taught in MA
schools?
SURELY it must be a matter of public record, isn’t it?
Rather than enthralling us with your acumen, can you point us in the
direction of the curriculum?
“Finally, I could go point by point in refuting all of "TL's nonsense
and circular reasoning.”
Please do, it would be better than making a weak, “wet blanket”
statement. Precisely WHAT “nonsense and circular reasoning?”
“But I just see him as an angry person caught up in a soul-wrenching
behavior and a bizarre movement.”
I shouldn’t say this out loud, but I giggled when I read that!
Your
opinion is very, VERY far off base, sir! Take it from someone
who
knows.
Mr. Renaud,
It’s ironic that you accuse me of psycho-”babble” just before launching
into one of your trademark, liberal-phobic tirades. All of us
who have
read your previous Letters (on other topics) recognize your antics.
It’s almost as ironic as your use of the word “hyperbole.”
Am I a Liberal? I didn’t know that I was, and don’t identify myself
as
such. Indeed, if Trent Lott and Dick Armey had not made certain
comments about homosexuality, I would have identified myself as “mostly
Republican.” (Well, at least until the Republican Congress became
Internet porn publishers. I would have HAD to draw the line there.)
So, go ahead; declare me an enemy, if you must. I just wanted
you to
know that I am neither “typical,” nor “A Liberal.” Oh, but
congratulations on knocking down the straw man that you set up.
Before
YOU but-but-but, just make a note on the pitfalls of pigeonholing
people.
I note, with amusement, your (apparent) keen interest in Internet
pornography. You mentioned percentages. Where did you find
those
“figures?” (“Inference intended.”)
Statistics regarding pornography on the Internet are notoriously hard
to
pin down, and are enormously controversial. And, NO, I have not
“carefully avoided” a topic which had not been previously mentioned.
YOU were the first to bring up pornography. Find your point.
“THIS is the truth about homosexuality…”
Darn it, there you go telling us “the Truth.” Refer to my opening
comments, above.
“Homosexuality is self-defining…”
If so, why do you continue, AND give an incomplete definition?
“Desire
OR behavior” would be accurate. Of course, you only needed the
“behavior” part to support the “lifestyle” arguments. I can understand
why you wouldn’t be completely open on this.
Figuratively, I have a plaque attached to the headboard of my bed.
It
is engraved with these indelible words: “Homosexuality is NOT
a
lifestyle.” I had a few extras produced, and would like to make
a gift
of one. I think you need it.
“How many ‘tormented gay teens’ has TL told about the long-proven,
utterly disastrous medical consequences of male homosexual activity?”
I have told none at all. I do not lie to children.
“Does TL let them know that the life expectancy of "gay" men is 30 years
less than that of ‘straight’ men…”
No, of course I would not say that to children. YOU MIGHT, but
I
certainly wouldn’t. (See my comment, directly above.)
“And, having seen enough graphic footage of the disgusting behavior
of
the marchers and their arrogant defiance of every standard of public
decency, I praise God that I have NOT ‘marched’ in these sordid tributes
to amorality and degeneracy.”
Umm… Uhhh… What did you just say? I was momentarily distracted
by some
very colorful images of the blatantly heterosexual spectacle of “Mardis
Gras.” Sorry, I’ll try to stay more focussed.
Here’s what annoys me about media coverage of gay events: There could
be
ten thousand normal, average, working folks (and their friends and
families) quietly marching together; and WHAT do you see on TV?
Some
mustachioed guy wearing a leather jacket and a tutu, rollerblading
down
Main Street. C’mon, that’s really, REALLY unfair.
“Naturally, TL and his bedfellows…”
Yuk, yuk. You “IS” a laugh riot.
To Chris Cassidy:
“…the letter writer stated that the word "homosexual" only appeared
in
revisions to the Bible about 50 years ago.”
It is my understanding that the RSV (Revised Standard Version) of 1946
was the first Bible translation that used the word “homosexual.”
Since
there are no words in ancient Greek or Hebrew for “homosexual,” the
translation of ANY Bible word as such is a glaring error.
I’m familiar with the Bible passages used to “condemn” homosexuality.
I’m surprised that you chose Romans as your example, for it is widely
acknowledged that Paul is difficult to interpret. Even Peter
warned
about Paul’s apparent lack of writing skills (II Peter 3:16-18).
There are ample scholarly and religious discussions about the “anti-gay”
Bible passages. The fact that they are so seriously argued gives
me
reasonable doubt about the “proclaimed” original intention of the
messages.
“Practicing homosexuality will not continue the species, so for that
reason alone, it is not ‘normal’.”
The overwhelming majority of human sexual contacts do NOT result in
offspring. Therefore, procreation is an inappropriate benchmark
for
determining sexual “normalcy.” Non-procreative sex IS the norm.
AIDS is an “issue” because it is a killer disease. It kills more
people
worldwide than malaria. AIDS is not a “gay disease,” it is a
human
disease.
Constantly associating “AIDS and gays” is doing a grave injustice to
non-gay people. They think that if “AIDS is gay,” then “not-gay
means
no AIDS.” This misguided thinking, this “I’m-not-gay Immunity,”
is
having disastrous results, worldwide, RIGHT NOW!
Start preparing your answers to AIDS-infected heterosexuals who will
ask, “Why did you keep saying ‘gay, gay, gay?’”
(Does anyone else appreciate the irony of a gay man warning the
heterosexual population about AIDS? I could just shrug my shoulders
and
say, “Why should I bother? They’ll find out. We did.”
That would be
appallingly insensitive of me.)
Finally, you SHOULD teach children about safe sex (including
abstinence). It is vital information that they NEED in order
to protect
themselves. I think that to do anything less constitutes
negligence.
TL
Halt the Bias
12 January 199
Your "Newspaper" is the most biased piece of writing that I have ever
read. Please just live your life and stop trying to impose your
unsolicited ridiculous ideas and right-wing fanatical beliefs upon
anyone else. I am appalled that I received this "article" in
the mail
today. I will be sending it back and if I ever receive any
communication from you again my husband will consult his law partners
regarding the action we can take to prevent you from sending biased
information through the mail.
Kent Schreiner
TL's Final
Letter
Dear Mr. Pawlick:
I would like to thank you for having given me the opportunity to express
my views on your site. I think that we have discussed some very
important topics.
It is good to see you express your primary points without the use of
certain “terms.” All discussions are more intelligent when they
do not
rely on catch phrases and shock value.
I agree that one’s sexual activity is a very private matter, and should
remain so. Sexuality, on the other hand, is a universal human
trait;
and we should not shy away from open discussion. I think that
we have
demonstrated that here.
Nobody should be denied competent, professional help with what they
determine to be self-destructive behavior. This is, of course,
an
individual decision; everyone should be happy with himself or herself.
If there is, indeed, an attempt to shut down intelligent discussion;
I
agree that it is unfair. I think that folks like you and I will
continue to discuss regardless of who tries to shut us down.
I appreciate the time and effort you have spent on our exchange.
TL's Third Letter
7 January
I am at a total loss to understand your insistence that Matthew Shepard
went to the NON-GAY bar “looking for sex.” You have no proof;
you are
making an insupportable allegation. The Times article is outdated,
and
the quotes therein have been disproved by sworn testimony in a court
of
law. I am astonished at your recalcitrance.
You objected when I said that you would do something in a particular
situation. You said, “That is unfair. He has no knowledge
of what I
would do.” I agreed and apologized.
Now, you sir, have NO KNOWLEDGE of what Matthew Shepard was doing that
night. This is inarguable. I don’t understand why you continue
to obsess upon this tawdry “sexcapade” fantasy.
As a publisher (and as a former, practicing lawyer), you surely know
what the word “libel” means. I call upon you to PROVE your published
statement that Matthew Wayne Shepard, on the night of October 6, 1998,
entered the Fireside Bar in Laramie, Wyoming, looking for sex.
Prove it, or lose it. That’s all.
You sir, cannot quote a few “experts” to tell me how homosexuals
behave. Are you a homosexual? Do you have many homosexual
friends and
acquaintances? How much time have you spent in the “homosexual
community?” Have you visited the “bath-houses and homosexual
bars” that
you referenced? (“Bath-houses?”)
In how many gay support groups have you participated? How many
tormented gay teens have you interviewed? How many gay funerals
have
you attended? How loudly have you protested anti-gay violence?
Have
you marched in many “Pride” parades?
In other words, sir, exactly what are YOUR qualifications for making
such sweeping statements about homosexuality?
“From what little I have read on the subject, homosexuality is a
wonderful life where everyone wants to be together, whether in San
Francisco, Greenwich Village or Provincetown, to share this wonderful
lifestyle.”
I give you great credit, sir, for so publicly acknowledging your
ignorance. We simply must continue this discussion, so that you
no
longer rely upon Myth, Misperception, and Hearsay, to formulate your
opinions about homosexuality.
We have already seen that one of your “three researchers” is a disgraced
scientist, that he has a long history of “distorting data;” and that
his
“gay lifespan” study uses ridiculous, unscientific methods. The
fact
that you choose to stand by him is noble; foolish, I think, but noble.
And Jeffrey Satinover (another “researcher”), your apparently favored
psychiatrist, who has been published by NARTH (the anti-gay
psychological group), and who has been a guest speaker of The Family
Research Council (in my opinion, a “heterosexual activist”
organization. {Remember those horrible ads?}); well, Satinover
seems to
speak in a foreign language. Have you read much of his work?
Perhaps
it would be more appropriate for me to ask, “Have you understood much
of
his work?” “Have you had much of his work interpreted for you?”
I
would be happy to provide references to some of his deeper discourses,
to serve as examples.
Your third, and final, “researcher:” E. L. Goldman. Ummm… Who
is this?
I can’t find any information, nobody seems to know.
You expect us to believe you when you say that homosexuality is “more
dangerous than cigarettes.” To support your point, you bring
forth
three “researchers:” One who nobody should believe, one who nobody
understands, and one who nobody recognizes.
Very weak, sir, very weak. You need better “experts.”
(Say, let’s try a little experiment of our own. You’re a publisher,
let’s publish our own “gay lifespan” study. Just post a questionnaire,
homosexual respondents only. And they answer only one question:
“How
old are you?” C’mon, this could be very exciting, and you would
have
some first-hand data to quote. Let’s give it a shot, I’ll help.
Interested?)
You have, however, made some valid points.
“And yet, there are mothers who beat their children, abandon them and
even kill them. Would you allow these bad examples to nullify
your
feelings about motherhood?”
And yet, very small minorities of pedophiles are homosexual. Will
you
allow these bad examples to influence your feelings about gay men?
“Myths About Male Sexual Abuse
Adapted from a presentation at the 5th International Conference on
Incest and Related Problems, Biel, Switzerland, August 14, 1991.
(Excerpt –TL)
Myth #2 - Most sexual abuse of boys is perpetrated by homosexual males.
Pedophiles who molest boys are not expressing a homosexual orientation
any more than pedophiles who molest girls are practicing heterosexual
behaviors. While many child molesters have gender and/or age
preferences, of those who seek out boys, the vast majority are NOT
homosexual. They are pedophiles.”
I hope that I’m making myself understood. You say that a tiny
fraction
of the population is homosexual. I say that a TINY FRACTION of
the
homosexual population are pedophiles. Whatever number of homosexual
pedophiles are about, there are vast multiples of non-homosexual
pedophiles preying on children, and they like little boys as much as
they like little girls. They are attracted to “childishness,”
that is
their fetish; not genitalia.
Your attempt to highlight “homosexual pedophilia” is misguided.
If you
truly wish to protect children from predatory pedophiles, you must
definitely shift your focus. Like I tell my friends with children,
about pedophiles: “I’ll hold them down, while you pull their fingers
off
with a pair of pliers.” I don’t know how to better express myself
on
this topic, but I will strenuously resist your every effort to equate
homosexuality with the disturbing sickness of pedophilia. As
much as
you are loath to admit it, these are incomparable. You are attempting
to remove the splinter in my eye, before removing the plank from your
own.
“However, you must realize that organized, homosexual advocates are
trying very hard to stop them from doing so, which is a blatant attempt
to violate their civil rights.”
I also understand that organized, heterosexual advocates are trying
very
hard to deny MY civil rights. As I mentioned before, YOU suggested
taking steps to circumvent anti-discrimination regulations. I
could not
help but notice that you chose to NOT deny that.
I deserve equal rights and protections, my friend, not “special”
rights. Married couples (it would be redundant of me to say,
“Married,
heterosexual couples”) enjoy many benefits. Health insurance,
survivor
benefits, and so on. Does it not seem to you that they enjoy
“special
privileges” because of their sexual orientation? Yet, is that
not what
they accuse of homosexuals? Something’s very fishy, here.
Think about it.
I am certainly not suggesting that you teach children that homosexuality
is an attractive alternative. You should, however, let them know
that
there are homosexuals (there are), that it is normal for some people
to
be homosexual (it is), and that they should not abuse, oppress, attack,
disrespect, KILL, or try to change them because they are homosexual
(they shouldn’t). This seems very reasonable to me; and, it’s
better
than the kids learning about it “on the street.”
Your inflammatory attempt to make me seem like a Bible-basher is beneath
you, sir. Religious beliefs are very personal. Indeed,
mine are so
personal that I choose to not discuss them in this forum, and I insist
on this being a non-religious discussion.
I encourage all to practice their religious tenets; providing, of
course, that such practice does not include the oppression of others.
That should be all that we need to say on the matter.
By all means, “embrace” the suffering homosexuals. Those homosexuals
(and heterosexuals) who are deranged by their sexuality need an outlet;
a loving, guiding hand.
Just leave the rest of us alone. We’re quite well, thank you,
and it’s
presumptuous of anyone to suggest otherwise.
Mr. Pawlick Replies to TL's
Third Letter:
I wanted to make three main points in "An Intelligent Discussion":
1) Anything that happens in a person’s bedroom should be a private
matter. It used to be. Most people do not care what homosexual
people
do in their bedroom. Let’s put it back there where it belongs.
2) We must not allow the homosexual activists to deny professional help
to those homosexuals who desire to change.
3) It is totally unfair to attack Christianity in an attempt to
shut-down all intelligent discussion of homosexuality.
As much as I appreciate TL's interest, I think that we have lost sight
of the main points of the article and been side-tracked onto marginal
issues. Our readers should read the original article, and TL's
comments, and judge for themselves.
Discussion of
Homosexuality Continues
6 January
TL's Second Letter
The following excerpt is pertinent to our discussion:
By Robert W. Black, The Associated Press, Laramie, Wyo., Nov. 20
The lead investigator, Sheriff’s Detective Sgt. Rob DeBree, testified
that McKinney, 21, admitted to the beating and implicated his friend
Henderson, also 21. According to DeBree, McKinney said that robbery
was
the main motive but that Shepard was chosen as a target because he
was
gay.
DeBree said McKinney “admitted Matthew did not hit on them or make
advances” in the Fireside Bar, but that they lured him out intending
to
rob him and burglarize his house.
Both the girlfriend and McKinney’s father had said that Matthew “made
advances” to the “suspects.” With this sworn testimony, we now
know
that that is not true. We can view this as a sad attempt to “blame
the
victim.” (Besides, the “Humiliation Defense” didn’t work for
Jonathan
Schmitz, the convicted killer of Scott Amedure.)
That is why it is “obscene” of you to say, “[Matthew] went to a bar
looking for sex…” It is “offensive to decency.” I know
that dead crime
victims have no rights, but they deserve truth, and respect.
I do not wish to think of you like that, and hope that you were merely
misinformed.
However, I must agree with you here: You say that it was “unfair” of
me
to say “you, and others like you” would act in a predictable manner.
You are right, I do not know you (or others like you), and I cannot
possibly know how you would act. We are each and every one, an
individual. I agree, and I apologize.
Mr. Pawlick, I do not wish to start a religious argument with you.
I
tried to make my point as concisely as possible. The Bible undergoes
constant revisions, retranslations, and reinterpretations. It
is not
carved in stone, is not an immutable text.
Taken in snippets, it can be used to “prove” many things. To
demonstrate my point, I merely have to point to a certain Baptist
minister in Topeka, Kansas; who once said he could “prove” that the
Bible says it’s okay to beat your wife.
He also says that I should be put to death because I’m gay. He
can
“prove” it with the Bible.
I’m sorry, but my mind just shuts off when the old
“Leviticus-Sodom-Paul-Timothy-Romans” arguments get trotted out.
I’ve
been through it, it’s tiresome. I just close my eyes and think
of Jesus
Christ’s one and only recorded reference to Leviticus: “Love Thy
Neighbor…” Then I try to think of nothing, which is what He had to
say
about homosexuality. It certainly did not seem to be a matter
of
“tremendous importance” to Him, and I respect that.
I am sorry that you feel that there is an attempt to “shut down” all
Christian discussion of homosexuality. I hope that I encourage
“Christian Discussion.”
As for those homosexuals who seek professional help to “change” (a
euphemism for reorientation); I say, go ahead. Let them.
If they ask
my advice, I will tell them that they are pursuing quackery, and I
will
show them why I think that way. If they want to pursue it, it’s
no skin
off my nose.
I will, however, continue to speak out against those who advocate such
quackery.
I must point out that when I referred to “practicing pedophiles, who
show no remorse,” I was not referring to NAMBLA. I was referring
to the
predatory monsters that prey upon our children.
I took your advice, and visited the NAMBLA website. No, I did
not check
out the “stream of intellectual discussion,” because I was sure that
I
would become disturbed and angry. I did, however, try to find
the size
of their roster. Out of the millions and millions of gay men
in North
America, I wanted to know how many would sign on to a group like this.
I couldn’t find it. How many members do you think this splinter
group
has? A couple of thousand, perhaps?
Over the years, I have met hundreds, if not thousands of gay men.
NOT A
SINGLE ONE of them mentioned NAMBLA in anything but a derisive tone.
You can say, “NAMBLA, NAMBLA, NAMBLA” all day; it means nothing to
me,
or to any gay man that I have ever met.
Sir, I respectfully request that you abstain from taking The Exception,
and trying to make it The Norm.
I would like to address your primary point:
“We're teaching a lifestyle in the schools of Massachusetts which is
deadlier than cigarettes.”
That says a lot. I don’t know how to address it all at once.
I’m
struggling to keep my knee from jerking. Maybe if I take it a
piece at a time…
What is a “gay lifestyle,” Mr. Pawlick? I don’t ask this question
idly. Indeed, I have asked it many times before. I have
never received
a straight answer. Either nobody is willing to state what is
a “gay
lifestyle;” or, nobody knows what it is. Let’s try to solve this
mystery.
I’m gay; I must be living a “gay lifestyle,” right? So, a “gay
lifestyle” must mean: Being a professional, loving one’s friends and
family, opening one’s heart and home, being truthful, open, honest,
fair, caring, compassionate…
Wait. I’m being immodest. I do have a few close, gay friends;
let’s
look at their “lifestyles.”
Ummm… Actually, theirs are not much different from my own. What’s
most
noticeable is that they have been in years-long relationships, whilst
I
have not. One’s a classically trained pianist; another’s an
entrepreneurial graphic designer. The others are an IBM executive,
a
computer/ chemical engineer, a student, and a Professor of Philosophy
at
a prestigious New York University.
What do you think THEIR “gay lifestyles” are like?
I hope you get my point, sir; I will not allow you to say that
homosexuality is a “lifestyle.” As I said before, “We are each
and
every one, an individual.” “Not a monolith,” so to speak.
Do you
agree?
Finally, I must put to rest your proclamation that homosexuality is
“more dangerous than cigarettes.”
Your statement (according to your endnotes) is based on the work of
Paul
Cameron. Just for reference, let us point out that Paul Cameron
is a
self-styled “expert” on homosexuality. What makes him “an expert?”
Well, talking about it a lot, apparently.
In 1982, and in 1984, the Nebraska Psychological Association censured
him.
In 1983, he was expelled from the American Psychological Association
(APA).
In 1984, A Texas judge charged that Cameron made “misrepresentations”
to the court.
In 1985, Cameron compared AIDS to rabies.
In 1986, he suggested that people with AIDS be branded on their
foreheads with the letter “A,” and be put under house arrest.
In 1987, he stated that his goal was to “destroy homosexuality.”
Cameron has admitted publicly that he developed his ideas about
homosexuality before he gathered his evidence, rather than proceeding
from the evidence to the conclusion, as most researchers are trained
to
do. (Geraldo.)
Drs. Robert D. Brown and James K. Cole, former colleagues of Cameron,
put it thus, “Cameron’s credibility as a scientist whose data and data
analyses can be trusted has been seriously compromised by evidence
that
he has systematically distorted data to support assertions he has made
regarding homosexuality.”
(Quote)
Text of Resolution by the American Sociological Association
(Passed by the ASA Council at its August, 1986 meeting in New York)
"The American Sociological Association officially and publicly states
that Paul Cameron is not a sociologist, and condemns his consistent
misrepresentation of sociological research. Information on this
action
and a copy of the report by the Committee on the Status of Homosexuals
in Sociology, "The Paul Cameron Case," is to be published in Footnotes,
and be sent to the officers of all regional and state sociological
associations and to the Canadian Sociological Association with a request
that they alert their members to Cameron's frequent lecture and media
appearances." (end quote)
Wow, that’s quite a mouthful.
(Mr. Pawlick, are you SURE that you want THIS guy’s work to be the
thrust of your arguments?)
Let’s get right to the bone of Cameron’s “study:”
“Gay men with AIDS have an average lifespan of 39 years. Gay men
without AIDS have an average lifespan of 41 years.” (This is
where you
got the “more dangerous than cigarettes” argument, isn’t it?
The
“they'll still live 30 years less than married men” argument, right?)
How did Paul Cameron arrive at these frightening figures?
By reading the obituary columns in gay newspapers in the mid-eighties.
A Query:
How can one arrive at an average LIFESPAN by reading death notices?
Isn’t that like standing alone in a cemetery, and then publishing a
report that one is the only living person? Seems silly, doesn’t
it?
Did Cameron expect to find “Life Notices” in the obituaries? “Mr.
Smith, a gay man, has celebrated his fifty-seventh birthday by
bench-pressing three hundred-twenty pounds?” He didn’t interview
any
living homosexuals. Has he never heard of a Control Group?
Can anyone
truly believe that the ravages of AIDS would knock only two years off
a
man’s life?
As much as I appreciate your willingness to engage in reasonable
discourse, Mr. Pawlick, I sputter in astonishment at your reliance
on
such discredited data. Perhaps you can begin to see why I was
so…
disturbed… at finding your discourse on the cover of a “news source”
for
so long.
I am anxious to hear your reply.
Mr. Pawlick Replies to
TL's Second Letter:
I am at a total loss to understand why it is obscene for me to believe
that Matthew Shepard was looking for sex in Laramie, Wyoming.
We have bath-houses and homosexual bars for that very reason. For
someone who is a part of that lifestyle, there is nothing wrong with it.
Why does this raise such an emotional reaction? Even the New York
Times believes this was a valid assumption.
As far as the Bible is concerned, you cannot quote a few “nuts” to tell
me what the Bible says. You can take the most wonderful thing in
the world and attempt to destroy it if you wish. For example,
in America we have always put “motherhood” on the highest pedestal and
glorified it. And yet, there are mothers who beat their children,
abandon them and even kill them. Would you allow these bad examples
to nullify your feelings about motherhood? The same is true of the
Bible. Some of the best and some of the worst things have been done
in the name of Christ. I will continue to look at the wonderful people
I have known in my life who are Christians. You may choose to look
at some of the bad people who masquerade as Christians.
I am sorry that your “mind just shuts off” when you hear about the Bible.
It is true that Jesus wanted us to love our neighbor. So when I see
a farmer-friend of mine smoking cigarettes, should I try to get him to
stop? I believe it is a very foolish lifestyle and he knows I think
so, but I can’t bug him about it, can I? I sure would like
to get him to stop, but he will not stop being my friend if he doesn’t.
But, as the former head of the Teachers Committee for an elected
School Board for over 10,000 students, I certainly would not want him to
be a teacher who is telling our children that smoking is a very wonderful
thing. How about if I see a young boy who is thinking about
trying homosexuality? Am I loving him by permitting him to start?
Would I want a teacher telling him it’s just another lifestyle choice?
I am happy to see that you do not want to stop other homosexuals from
attempting to “change.” However, you must realize that organized,
homosexual advocates are trying very hard to stop them from doing so, which
is a blatant attempt to violate their civil rights.
Although you are not a pedophile and most homosexuals are not, it is
three times more common among homosexuals than among others. And
the group that is pushing it most actively with a very sophisticated website,
is exclusively homosexual.
Is this a “lifestyle?” I attempted to use a word in my article
which would not offend you. From what little I have read on the subject,
homosexuality is a wonderful life where everyone wants to be together,
whether in San Francisco, Greenwich Village or Provincetown, to share this
wonderful lifestyle. We have homosexual poetry, philosophy, etc.
I did not make it a lifestyle. The homosexuals did. I will
not use “sexual preference,” because that is obviously a word which is
used to carry a connotation of approval of the practice. It carries
the idea that this is just another choice which a person makes in life.
I am at a loss as to what word to use. I imagine that no matter what
I use, someone will castigate me for it unless I submit to them and use
“sexual preference.”
I am at a total loss to understand how you can question my statement
that homosexuality is “more dangerous than cigarettes.” For years
and years, we have witnessed the tremendous rallies to “Find the Cure for
AIDS.” We heard that the homosexual community is being decimated
by this disease. And yet you question me when I agree with you.
How can you argue about that? What about all of the other diseases
which I list to which homosexuals are prone?
Your answer to the above paragraph is to criticize Paul Cameron, who
was only one of three researchers who did the research that I cited.
Obviously, I have no clue as to all of your negative comments about Cameron,
but it is unnecessary to our discussion. I must wonder, however,
if everything you say is true, why were these three scholars giving a paper
to the Eastern Psychological Association in 1993? Is everyone at
that Association also a “nut?” Meanwhile, I would like to quote once
again the psychiatrist Jeffery Satinover:
“In April 1993 three researchers [including Paul Cameron] presented
a paper to the Eastern Psychological Association in which they analyzed
the age of death for nearly seven thousand homosexuals and heterosexuals
by obituary notices in a large number of gay and a smaller number of large
non-gay newspapers. They found that the gay male lifespan, even apart
from AIDS and with a long-term partner, is significantly shorter than that
of married men in general by more than three decades. AIDS further
shortens the lifespan of homosexual men by more than 7 percent.
“Because of the researcher’s [sic] rough and ready methodology, these
findings have to be considered preliminary. Their data for heterosexuals
and for gay men with AIDS, however, are very close to similar data from
other, more reliable and replicated sources, as are the differences found
between the life spans of married and unmarried men and women. These
findings should serve as a warning about the potential seriousness of the
problems associated with homosexuality and the extent of the risk that
people may be taking in entering into this way of life.
“In the current political atmosphere the whole notion that homosexuality
is dangerous must appear inflammatory. But consider for a moment.
If these findings are true (and while the life span research has only limited
value, the more rigorous medical findings are incontrovertible), how could
anyone with a heart for the sufferings of others stand by in silence?
Given the risk, the only ethical approach to assisting men and women who
consider themselves homosexual — and especially youngsters still wrestling
with their emerging sexual feelings — must at the least include a willingness
to help them change not only the ‘high risk behaviors’ but the homosexual
‘orientation’ itself. There is considerable evidence ... that homosexuality
is actually no more difficult to change than the high-risk behaviors themselves.”
"Intelligent Discussion About Homosexuality"
is a Bald-Faced Lie
4 January 1999
A response from the Publisher.
I'd like to thank the reader for his letter. He feels very
strongly about the subject, and that is understandable. Hopefully,
he and I can carry on a reasonable dialogue. I would like to
put just a few thoughts here, but the rest of my comments will be at the
bottom, after his letter. I hope he answers my comments. My
goal in printing this piece was three-fold.
1) What happens in a person's bedroom used to be a private matter, but
we are far from the bedroom nowadays. We're teaching that homosexuality
is an attractive alternative; when, in actuality, it is a much more dangerous
matter than smoking cigarettes.
2) Many activists are attempting to dictate that all homosexuals
will be denied professional help if they attempt to change.
3) An unfair attack on Christianity is being made in an attempt to shut
down all discussion of homosexuality.
TL's First Letter:
I believe that you have displayed very poor judgment by
posting this discourse ("An
Intelligent Discussion about Homosexuality: Will Massachusetts Listen?")
on your website, then disappearing until January
4th. It seems that you don’t want to “discuss” anything at all,
and
would prefer to avoid reasonable responses to the innumerable
inaccuracies, speculations, questionable and discredited statistics
contained in your misguided disquisition.
In my eyes, your proclamation of “the Truth” amounts to a bald-faced
lie.
I am a gay man; and I am not a member of, or a contributor to, any
so-called “homosexual activist” group. I am a responsible suburbanite,
and a well-respected Investment Industry professional. I am not:
sick,
infected, perverted, compulsive, an addict, a rapist, or a pedophile.
Your inferences that I may be any of those things are incredibly
disturbing.
I was horribly offended at Part I of your so-called “In-Depth Feature
Story.” Constant repetition of choice phrases, and references
to
anti-gay “experts,” will not give credibility to your story.
Homosexuality is not a “lifestyle,” a “habit,” a “behavior,” a “choice,”
an “illness,” or a “danger to children.” Your every reference
to it as
such become empty, meaningless comments. Homosexuality is a normal
sexual orientation, with ample examples occurring in the natural world.
Personally I hope that there is NOT a "gay gene;" because it is
frightening to think of what you, and others like you, would do with
that information. “Your fetus is healthy, Mrs. Jones, but he’ll
be
gay. Would you like me to take care of that for you?” “Yes,
thank you
doctor.”
Even so, I believe that there often is a natural predisposition to
homosexuality. (I am confident that I have been gay my entire
life, and
my memory stretches back to early childhood.) The fact that
homosexuality becomes increasingly likely for each son that a woman
bears lends support to the theory that there is certainly a genetic
element, if not an actual gene.
Modern anti-homosexual activists have been trying to “change”
homosexuals (often forcibly) for about one hundred years. They’ve
tried
physical and pharmaceutical castration, testicle transplants, artificial
testosterone implants (the Nazis at Buchenwald), incarceration, drugs,
counseling, prayer, hypnosis, and Electro-Shock Therapy. All
methods
were (and are) miserable failures, leaving the victims psychically
and/or physically scarred.
Yet, the current crop of anti-gay activists continues to try to seduce
more victims. First by telling them how “sick,” “troubled,” and
“sinful” they are, how much they need “help;” then saying, “We have
the
way! It can be done; it’s a GREAT success! Come to us you
poor gay
things, you sick sinners; we can straighten you right out!”
Thanks, but; NO, thank you. The presupposition that there is something
wrong with me is pompous and self-serving of the Christian Radical
Right. I am happy and gay, and have no desire to change.
The best scientific minds on the planet have condemned the horrible
“reorientation therapies:” Not only because of the dismal failure rate,
and the damage inflicted on the victims; but because, quite simply,
there is nothing wrong with being gay.
Anyone can change his or her behavior, but sexual orientation is NOT
“a
behavior.” It is an essential component of one’s psyche.
Your attempt to equate HIV and AIDS (and, astoundingly, a host of other
diseases) with homosexuality has probably caused another thousand
heterosexuals to become infected. These are HUMAN diseases, as
an
unfortunately large part of southern Africa’s population is now
demonstrating. In some of the most anti-homosexual areas on the
planet,
as much as 25% of the populations are infected with HIV and AIDS.
(That’s Total Population, not “Homosexual Population.”) To blame
all
this on a minority is shortsighted, at best; and deadly to the
misinformed masses, at worst.
Your opening comments suggested that Education was the thrust of your
arguments. Yet, when you finally arrived at this crucial topic,
you
deferred to someone else for opinion. I presume that he is the
same
Brain Camenker of Massachusetts Interfaith Coalition fame. The
one who
has his email address listed on the Massachusetts Republican Party
website; the leader of STAND UP, Newton, the group that fought to
prevent the Board of Aldermen from recognizing domestic partnerships.
The Brian Camenker who disrupted the very school committee meeting
that
he had “arranged.” You have effectively eviscerated your own
message,
by bringing in what I see as a “one-man protest” to make your point
for
you. I cannot take him, or you, seriously.
And, by “gay clubs” in schools, I assume you mean “Gay-Straight
Alliances.” It’s no surprise that these groups, which espouse
mutual
respect and understanding, should come under attack from those who
oppress openness, honesty, and fact.
It is especially despicable of you to even suggest that homosexuals
have
anything to do with prison rape. In fact, the overwhelming
majority of
male-on-male rapes victimize, and are committed by, heterosexual males.
Likewise, the vast majorities of pedophiles identify themselves as
heterosexual, and are remarkably indifferent to the gender of their
victims.
To hint that I would have even the faintest proclivity of pedophilia
is
incredibly offensive (indeed, nauseating). I believe that pedophiles
are sick people who need our help; and those practicing pedophiles,
who
show no remorse, are monsters that will burn in hell forever.
Unlike
homosexuality, pedophilia is an illness and not a “sexuality.”
I refuse to address your paranoid delusions about your competitors.
So,
you’re not The Boston Globe. Hooray. It’s sad how
you equate blatant
discrimination with Free Speech; and, how you propose taking steps
to
circumvent non-discrimination regulations.
You should have stopped at Part I. Your Biblical arguments, predictable
and tired, have been thoroughly refuted elsewhere. Of course
the
current revision of the Bible “condemns” homosexuality; considering
that
it was Church leaders who interpreted it for you. The word “homosexual”
did not appear in ANY Bible revision until about fifty years ago.
The Christian Right is one of the largest political lobbying groups
in
the country, and the Church is the largest landholder on Earth.
Your
pitiable attempt at creating some great, local, anti-Christian
conspiracy (based largely on a single article) is worthy of Oliver
Stone.
Finally, it is downright OBSCENE of you to suggest that Matthew Shepard
went to that bar “looking for sex.” Were you there? Did
he approach
you, proposition you? Even his MURDERERS said that he did NOT
approach
them. They entrapped him, kidnapped, robbed, tortured and killed
him.
Your disgusting, sordid attempt to turn an innocent victim of
cold-blooded, self-described homophobes, into some promiscuous tramp,
has sealed your fate by me.
I hope that all intelligent, enlightened, and informed readers will
now
join me in erasing your now-questionable “News” site from our bookmarks,
and our memories.
CC: The Boston Globe, The Boston Phoenix.
The statement of the publisher
of The Massachusetts News (referenced above) mentions
your publications
by name. I would like you to see my response.
Mr. Pawlick Replies to TL's
First Letter:
The reader's letter is obviously from an intelligent man.
It is not an ad hominem attack, although it does wander into that
category a few times. For example, when he talks about a "gay
gene," he says, "[I]t is frightening to think of what you, and others like
you..." That is unfair. He has no knowledge of
what I would do.
He says "there often is a natural predisposition to homosexuality."
Note that he uses the word, "often," which means there is not always a
natural predisposition. No one disagrees with his statement.
As a matter of fact, in section 3 that is stated very clearly.
When he says that pedophiles are "monsters that will burn in hell forever,"
I am a little taken aback. I do not know any of these people, but
I am sure they will not agree with his statement. If you take a look
at their website, www.nambla.org you will discover a stream
of intellectual discussion from professional type people about how this
sex is a benefit to young people. It helps their mental health,
they say.
The discussion in Part II, about Christianity, is not "a pitiable attempt
at creating some great, local anti-Christian conspiracy." We
cite both of our major Boston newspapers. We could cite more
but we will be happy if we can get people to read even this much.
It is not obscene to say that Shepard was looking for a sexual partner.
Why is that obscene? The New York Times reported on
October 16 that the girl friend of the murderers said that "the primary
motive was robbery, but that he was also embarrassed when Shepard made
a pass at him at the Fireside." The Times also
reported that two months before he was killed, Shepard was in an altercation
with another man who claimed that Shepard approached him. None of
that is particularly surprising or the Times would not have reported it.
When he says that the word, "homosexual," did not appear in Bibles until
about fifty years ago, I fail to understand. So what?
None of the quotations from the Bible that I used had that word at all.
Frankly, there are many things that I would rather write about than
homosexuality. However, the successful push to get this lifestyle
out of the bedroom and into the streets and schools of Massachusetts is
affecting all of us. If we do not start to talk about and teach
the truth, whatever it may be, in this and other subjects, our society
will be in serious trouble.
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